tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post1400850047045533231..comments2023-12-23T08:26:04.543-05:00Comments on Gary's third pottery blog: being valued and getting paid....Gary's third pottery bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13517401528128108791noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-40242081371746671862013-10-20T19:13:21.007-04:002013-10-20T19:13:21.007-04:00Gee, my kids always had to pay for field trips. &...Gee, my kids always had to pay for field trips. "Return the permission slip and money by Tuesday, etc." I'm glad you are making a statement. Claudia has some good statements, too. smalltownmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10857871195417461235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-38678153882354906332013-10-19T00:19:06.034-04:002013-10-19T00:19:06.034-04:00I love Maude's letter.
Your work should be va...I love Maude's letter. <br />Your work should be valued as everyones work. Right? <br />Even those government peeps who took....how many days off? Who paid their electric bill? Oh wait, maybe you and I did?<br />But yes, I get this! I work for a photographer and we get several calls a day from people wanting free work. Hello? she has bills too.<br />Always stand up for your craft, your work is important.<br />SuzBusy Bee Suzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18115487928147732314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-43578529969989159822013-10-18T21:59:20.445-04:002013-10-18T21:59:20.445-04:00That is a very good way of wording it. I was const...That is a very good way of wording it. I was constantly asked for demos and donations and it took me a long time to realize it was okay to say no when I was starting out. After fifteen years I too am taking a break but due to health reasons. But it's not like we were raking it in. I is wonderful to make pottery, but I never ceased to be amazed by the number of people who thought I could afford to give pieces away to organizations I didn't even know. <br />Love your blog Gary! <br />DarleneDarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06371142939043902723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-37582989725689374862013-10-18T21:50:55.118-04:002013-10-18T21:50:55.118-04:00That is a very good way of wording it. I was const...That is a very good way of wording it. I was constantly asked for demos and donations and it took me a long time to realize it was okay to say no when I was starting out. After fifteen years I too am taking a break but due to health reasons. But it's not like we were raking it in. I is wonderful to make pottery, but I never ceased to be amazed by the number of people who thought I could afford to give pieces away to organizations I didn't even know. <br />Love your blog Gary! <br />DarleneDarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06371142939043902723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-71191204386230180422013-10-18T15:23:33.419-04:002013-10-18T15:23:33.419-04:00truth Gary, this is the truth.
people think we wor...truth Gary, this is the truth.<br />people think we work for love and admiration, but when I go to pay a bill they want dollars not my love and admiration.<br />For every pot I sell it is one step closer to paying a bill. I think people would be amazed at what little we live on. How do we do this? We like our life, we are good at what we do and we are very careful how we spend our money. Do we wish we had gone another direction, at times yes.<br />But most times no.<br />The other ting I have learned well how to do is how to say no.cookingwithgashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11456258592273328486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-53873152652448053542013-10-18T12:55:00.519-04:002013-10-18T12:55:00.519-04:00You've probably heard my "glory of the lo...You've probably heard my "glory of the lord" rant before about being asked/expected to play for free. My best advice is to not apologize. Be very clear, polite, and upfront about what you charge. You can easily say, "I'd love to come do a demo at your school. My fee is $$$" I also have a standard line about donations. If I do not want to contribute, I say, "Thanks for asking, but I've filled my quota for contributions/donations this year." I figure if it's not a group that I would be willing to write a check to, then it's not a group I'm willing to donate my time and services to. <br /><br />That being said, if I believe in the cause, people, group, project, etc. I'll happily donate my time and efforts. I just want to be the one to set the rules like any other professional.<br /><br />My friend Jen and I learned this one the hard way. She makes fabulous lamps out of old instruments. (I used to make them too but hers are better so I just help out now and try to find her instruments/materials). She put together a gorgeous lamp made from an antique clarinet that we thought was for a silent auction for the symphony. The last one she made went for several hundred dollars. There was at least $100 worth of materials, time and labor in the lamp and they ended up giving it away in a raffle. That ended that.<br /><br />I think we have to stop apologizing for being professionals in the arts. People can ask me to play for free all they want but I can also say no and shouldn't be made to feel guilty about that when you are paying the secretary, the plumber, and everyone else in the building. <br /><br />Okay, end of rant! Claudia from Idiot's Kitchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01541460586713196175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-82807869989521756302013-10-18T12:13:04.122-04:002013-10-18T12:13:04.122-04:00Gary being treated fairly, and valued just never s...Gary being treated fairly, and valued just never seem to happen to me or George. Sigh, it seemed that today Art is viewed as some hobby that everyone just does for the hell of it...grrrrr! I quit Art all together, sigh, just had to be that way. We are in the process of selling all our equipment, etc...and still they all want everything for absolutely nothing...grrrrr Luckily I sold almost all the pottery we had except for a few items we are going to keep. I just got tired of always standing up and fighting for quite frankly peanuts...it's sad, tragic, and horrible. We did our pottery business for 10 years, all I wound up getting out of it was bad health from frustrations....I am glad you fair much better and your stuff is gorgeous, we love it!<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271935975778884600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-48027819882175124782013-10-18T11:39:47.382-04:002013-10-18T11:39:47.382-04:00LOVE the elephant jar. If I was a rich woman, ever...LOVE the elephant jar. If I was a rich woman, everyone would be getting your pottery for Christmas. <br />Good for you, putting your foot down and explaining that this is your WORK. <br />Karen (formerly kcinnova)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16705613736966783261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-72307458938421435632013-10-18T10:16:50.981-04:002013-10-18T10:16:50.981-04:00Great elephant jar. Yes, diplomacy and truth, goo...Great elephant jar. Yes, diplomacy and truth, good letter to approach the answer. And now to ask for free advice...any tips for successful open studios you'd like to give, please let me know! If it's not free, mmm, it's a bit hard to offer you a jar.Barbara Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351113054045427775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-46621162105606318932013-10-18T10:10:49.621-04:002013-10-18T10:10:49.621-04:00OF COURSE you should receive compensation--at leas...OF COURSE you should receive compensation--at least a buck or two per kid! Sheesh.<br />It's fascinating how people don't understand the give and take of economics. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-9043389084303365642013-10-18T09:50:16.358-04:002013-10-18T09:50:16.358-04:00We respond with what our fee is for the day or hou...We respond with what our fee is for the day or hour... no apologies. If teachers are resourceful they can find the funds to pay for artists to come in and do workshops. A few schools that we have gone to consider it an in house "field trip". Some have gotten funding from outside sources, arts councils etc.Michèle Hastingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11346907762804197879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-61797352533337706032013-10-18T09:30:14.615-04:002013-10-18T09:30:14.615-04:00This is the bane of being self-employed in the art...This is the bane of being self-employed in the art. You love what you do and <i>what!?</i> you want to get paid?<br /><br />The other one that makes me go ballistic is...."Well, you can take time off and do it later!"<br /><br />I like the reply you and yours have come up with!smartcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15430370214403895826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-16500123154808562012013-10-18T09:09:41.902-04:002013-10-18T09:09:41.902-04:00I think you raise an important point. The letter ...I think you raise an important point. The letter strikes just the right tone; diplomatic and clear in defining the ways in which you are affected when you consent to offer tours and the like.bartsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05866806380559854729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576713095937364949.post-36296372047535016422013-10-18T08:57:08.503-04:002013-10-18T08:57:08.503-04:00I own a small business too and a very small salary...I own a small business too and a very small salary. When someone is trying to chew me down on prices I remind them... "You know I do this for a living right". In other words this is not a hobby! Asshats!Diahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05995111602706144910noreply@blogger.com